Phantom costumes - real and replicas 1

I have three fun costume pics to share with you:

1. 2. 3.

1. is from Josefine's 100.th show, I'm posting with Teresia Bokor's (incredibly heavy) Aminta costume. Our dresses were insanely similar in colour, it was sooo cool! And I just don't see how she managed to move around in the dress - such a tiny person in so much fabric...

2. is one my grandmother took shortly after I had picked up the Hamburg Wishing dress at the post office. The backside is just amazing, what a construction. Especially the bodice blow me away, but I like the skirt drapes as well.

3. is a Star Princess mask in making, partly based on the Danish one (for materials), partly on the costume design (there'll be LOTS of stars!). I bought a papier-maché mask and dressed it in a funky, thin foam-rubber like sheet with a glittering surface ( http://www.pandurohobby.co.uk/pan/IboxServlet?p=IXS790&OPT=GET&AID=179126 ). I also bought a wooden stick and dressed it in a silver trim, and then attached the mask. next task will be to make and attach all the strings of beads/stars.

I posted the one overneath... You probably guessed that...

I have two questions. What is the Phantom's cape made out of mostly? And does anyone have any good pictures of the Wandering Child hat?

Phantom10906 wrote:I have two questions. What is the Phantom's cape made out of mostly? And does anyone have any good pictures of the Wandering Child hat?

1. I THINK the cloak is made of a fine wool (merino, possibly?), and lined with silk or a silk like fabric - both black, but the silk is shiny and looks a bit more grey. There are nice sequence appliqués on the collar and back, and it's mostly attached by two bands going from the shoulder, under the arms and meeting in the back (exept in Denmark,t here they closed with with a hook and eye in front).

2. I have some semi-good hat pictures, I'll dig them up and post them here later on.

Reminding of the revamped POTO costume design site:

http://potocostumes.webs.com/

hey!
um well my recent work includes a mock up of the Amnita(spell?) gown.
as I recently found 12 meters of lace in my 'scrap' bag
I doubt I will find the perfect fabric, but I have the stomacher!
It took three days to embroider (at 2 hours of work per day)
in the photo there are only four layers, but I will add another layer
as it is a bit too short here. the mock up used five meters of material.
https://2img.net/h/i346.photobucket.com/albums/p434/littlelotty004/IMAG1607.jpg

littlelotty004 wrote:hey!
um well my recent work includes a mock up of the Amnita(spell?) gown.
as I recently found 12 meters of lace in my 'scrap' bag
I doubt I will find the perfect fabric, but I have the stomacher!
It took three days to embroider (at 2 hours of work per day)
in the photo there are only four layers, but I will add another layer
as it is a bit too short here. the mock up used five meters of material.

https://2img.net/h/i346.photobucket.com/albums/p434/littlelotty004/IMAG1607.jpg

Oh my god, the stomacher is gorgeous! What a work you've done there. Would it be possible to take a closeup of it?

Phantom10906 wrote:I have two questions. What is the Phantom's cape made out of mostly? And does anyone have any good pictures of the Wandering Child hat?

When I get home, I'll send you a few of my hat from NY.

Oh my god, the stomacher is gorgeous! What a work you've done there. Would it be possible to take a closeup of it?
thanks! I put a lot of work into it
all I have in the way of close up is this progress pic, with the black/gold lace underneath.
the lace looks so much better with its black silk underskirt...
https://s346.photobucket.com/albums/p434/littlelotty004/my%20costume%20replicas/?action=view&current=IMAG1596.jpg

littlelotty004 wrote:
https://s346.photobucket.com/albums/p434/littlelotty004/my%20costume%20replicas/IMAG1596.jpg

It is so pretty! So extremely pretty. I'm a bit jealous...

The mock-up looks good too. You're so productive. You have quite a wardrobe now!

Does anyone know what the PONR cloak is made of? And perhaps what the sleeves look like up close? I've tried the POTO costumes website but i cant really get a clear look.

Phantom10906 wrote:Does anyone know what the PONR cloak is made of? And perhaps what the sleeves look like up close? I've tried the POTO costumes website but i cant really get a clear look.

I'm not sure about that construction either, to be honest.... But from what I can tell, the outfit is basically a huge robe without front opening The sleeves are an integrated part of this robe, but there's (elastic) openings for the sleeves, and the fabric is pleated around the elbow/lower arm to make it drape nicely: You can, sort of, see it here:

https://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v323/reiseaudun/designphantom/ponrus2.jpg
https://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v323/reiseaudun/designphantom/ponraussie2.jpg

The hood is attached separately. In some robes the fabric seems to be attached to a straighter shoulder panel, and then the hood is attached to this panel. But for specific details about the construction... I dunno.

As for the fabric, they seem to stick with non-shiny, semi thick patterned silks (or smooth fabrics). The pattern is often more shiny than the actual fabric. I've seen most kinds of pattern being used; paisley, spirals, flowers, dots etc. Hope that helped!

Well recently I made a fake bodice to go under my (littlelotty's) dressing gown...
Okay, so basically all I did was buy a gold singlet and sew on some leftover lace and jewels from my Hannibal Princess gown.
But still....oh, and I found some great shoes to go under it, too! So now I have a complete outfit!

The bodice
https://s403.photobucket.com/albums/pp118/MlleMusique/?action=view&current=P1010717.jpg&newest=1

The Shoes
https://s403.photobucket.com/albums/pp118/MlleMusique/?action=view&current=P1010695.jpg&newest=1

Sorry about the links, the pics are pretty big. And littlelotty, I finally bought a big tulle skirt to go under the Princess gown!

One more question. Does anyone know where i can find a fairly good Phantom mask? The best i could find was this: Click

Make one. It isn't that hard.

Here's the hat pic....

Luuuuvin' dat hat.

I think the only challenge will be finding a hat in that basic shape. The feathers would be easy. But the base hat is a bit of a problem. Sadly i would not know how to go about making my own mask. If Lindsay would happen to have instructions on how to do so i wouldn't mind.

Sadly, I'm not the one to ask about actually making masks. If you want one of the German masks (Thomas Schulze or Simon Tunkin molds), I'd highly suggesting the producer at macvader@googlemail.com. One of the German masks is featured on my costume page. They wear very well, are light and durable, and are a terrific value. The maker used to airbrush them for an additional fee; if he doesn't do that anymore, the mask is still easily painted to give it that stage look.

Phantom on a Budget wrote:Sadly, I'm not the one to ask about actually making masks. If you want one of the German masks (Thomas Schulze or Simon Tunkin molds), I'd highly suggesting the producer at macvader@googlemail.com. One of the German masks is featured on my costume page. They wear very well, are light and durable, and are a terrific value. The maker used to airbrush them for an additional fee; if he doesn't do that anymore, the mask is still easily painted to give it that stage look.

Do you know about what they cost?

Mine was about $60 shipped from Germany three years ago, but I've heard the price may have come down a little bit. Also, if you're interested in an early Broadway/Crawford style mask, I know of an artist who offers them (for a lot more money, though). PM if interested.

Ok, does anyone have any tips for finding specific fabrics? It turns out that fuscia/pink non-Asian-inspired brocades are basically nonexistant. (I'm looking at brocades because that's what I've had suggested to me and it gives the sort of high-quality finished look that I'm hoping for. Of course I'm open to suggestions for other kinds of fabric.) I'm planning to remake my Meg costume better for next year, based more specifically on the Vegas version, since I'll actually have time and a vague idea of what I'm doing this time around, but I haven't seen any fabrics in person or online that would work. The closest I've come is a black and fuscia paisley brocade that's more black than fuscia. The only other fuscia/pink brocades I've been able to find all have little gold flowers or birds all over them.

phantomgirl110 wrote:Ok, does anyone have any tips for finding specific fabrics? It turns out that fuscia/pink non-Asian-inspired brocades are basically nonexistant. (I'm looking at brocades because that's what I've had suggested to me and it gives the sort of high-quality finished look that I'm hoping for. Of course I'm open to suggestions for other kinds of fabric.) I'm planning to remake my Meg costume better for next year, based more specifically on the Vegas version, since I'll actually have time and a vague idea of what I'm doing this time around, but I haven't seen any fabrics in person or online that would work. The closest I've come is a black and fuscia paisley brocade that's more black than fuscia. The only other fuscia/pink brocades I've been able to find all have little gold flowers or birds all over them.

I've seen several versions here in Oslo - Chinese brocades has almost dominated the immigrant fabric shops I visit. I'll have a look next time I stroll around there. But have you tried eBay?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Fabric-Faux-Silk-Satin-Oriental-Brocade-Pink-CT13_W0QQitemZ270414826874QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Fabric?hash=item3ef5facd7a&_trksid=p4999.c0.m14

http://cgi.ebay.com/Discount-Hot-Pink-Leaf-CHINESE-BROCADE-FABRIC-PER-YARD_W0QQitemZ250372071220QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Fabric?hash=item3a4b569f34&_trksid=p4999.c0.m14#ht_1861wt_802

http://cgi.ebay.com/ELEMENTS-BLACK-ON-DEEP-PINK-VINES-Cotton-Quilt-Fabric_W0QQitemZ220322623607QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Fabric?hash=item334c407077&_trksid=p4999.c0.m14#ht_2215wt_1058

Or what about:
http://cgi.ebay.com/DOG-PUPPY-RETRO-BONES-BLACK-ON-PINK-FLEECE-FABRIC-CRAFT_W0QQitemZ230363538365QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Fabric?hash=item35a2bca3bd&_trksid=p4999.c0.m14

Ha-ha-ha! Would have LOVED to see that one turned into Meg's Masquerade costume...

I have tried eBay and seen a couple of those, but I don't want anything Asian-inspired like those gold leafy ones if I can avoid it.

However, that third one you posted is not bad. I hadn't seen that one before now. That gives me some hope.

I like the vine one. That could work.

Excellent costumes! I feel almost ashamed to post mine, considering that I did not make it, but here it is.



Honestly, it consits of a vampire cape, cheap fedora, and $10 mask I bought on amazon. But it suits me just fine.

phantomgirl110 wrote:Ok, does anyone have any tips for finding specific fabrics? It turns out that fuscia/pink non-Asian-inspired brocades are basically nonexistant. (I'm looking at brocades because that's what I've had suggested to me and it gives the sort of high-quality finished look that I'm hoping for. Of course I'm open to suggestions for other kinds of fabric.) I'm planning to remake my Meg costume better for next year, based more specifically on the Vegas version, since I'll actually have time and a vague idea of what I'm doing this time around, but I haven't seen any fabrics in person or online that would work. The closest I've come is a black and fuscia paisley brocade that's more black than fuscia. The only other fuscia/pink brocades I've been able to find all have little gold flowers or birds all over them.

I went and had a gander and you're right, it's not easy to find.

I kind of liked this one though.
http://cgi.ebay.com/daisy-Chinese-BROCADE-FABRIC-MATERIAL19-silk1metre-ml17_W0QQitemZ190334586354QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Fabric?hash=item2c50d34df2&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_2690wt_1082

Another brocade but it's probably too much pink.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Oriental-Satin-Brocade-Pink-Red-Fashion-Fabric-Yards_W0QQitemZ350252615501QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Fabric?hash=item518caec74d&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_5385wt_734

Too bad this isn't a brocade. It's just cotton but I thought the pattern was great.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110429118146&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_999wt_960

http://cgi.ebay.com/2-yds-JINNY-BEYER-PALETTE-DEEP-MAGENTA-FABRIC_W0QQitemZ200335980031QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Fabric?hash=item2ea4f475ff&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_1238wt_960

Another option for the jacket material is to find a nice black fabric with a finish that you like. Then create a leaf stamp and get a good quality opaque pigment/fabric paint and to the repeating leaf pattern in the Vegas material. It would be a lot of work though.

Not sure if you were going to line the jacket but if you do, this is like what inside of it.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Stunning-Silk-Chinese-Brocade-Fabric-Black-Dragonfly_W0QQitemZ250172373852QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Fabric?hash=item3a3f6f7b5c&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_5169wt_960

phantomgirl110 wrote:Ok, does anyone have any tips for finding specific fabrics? It turns out that fuscia/pink non-Asian-inspired brocades are basically nonexistant. (I'm looking at brocades because that's what I've had suggested to me and it gives the sort of high-quality finished look that I'm hoping for. Of course I'm open to suggestions for other kinds of fabric.) I'm planning to remake my Meg costume better for next year, based more specifically on the Vegas version, since I'll actually have time and a vague idea of what I'm doing this time around, but I haven't seen any fabrics in person or online that would work. The closest I've come is a black and fuscia paisley brocade that's more black than fuscia. The only other fuscia/pink brocades I've been able to find all have little gold flowers or birds all over them.

I had that exact same problem! In fact the closest I could find was this pink satiny-brocade that had this black sheen in certain lights.

Can you post a close up of the pink fabric you used for the costume?

Thanks for all of those links, MasqPhan! I actually really like the second one you posted. It's not quite right, but I like that it has a rose pattern to it.

Viscountess wrote:Can you post a close up of the pink fabric you used for the costume?

Sure thing! This is what I used:





Due to a lack of time/money/options I just went with this shimmery, mostly solid pink stuff. I say mostly solid because it actually had a slight texture to it when the light hit it right. You see in these pictures where it looks almost leopard-spotted? That's where the texture was. It didn't look leopard-spotted in person, I promise.

It was pretty and shiny and it worked, but hopefully I can make it more accurate next time.

Will look for pink, leafy fabrics with a hint of black from now on... And I probably won't stop until long after you've finished the re-vamped costume, ha-ha...

TGITPC, what I liked the most about your costume is actually the fedora! Cheap or not, it looks very good in the photos.