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Post  RichardN86 Fri Feb 19, 2016 3:42 am

According to Wikipedia, there are several scores. 27 piece Orchestra (original London score), 13 piece Orchestra (Bus&Truck reduced score), 45 piece Orchestra (25 anniversary score) and 29 piece orchestra (Broadway score)

Don't know how they do in international productions. I hope there will be a 27 or 29 piece orchestra in Sweden this fall...

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Post  justin-from-barbados Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:53 pm



Does the candelabra come up from the stage in Russia or from the wings?
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Post  MarySkater Thu Mar 17, 2016 3:03 pm

I can't answer your question, Justin, but I enjoyed the video. Thanks for posting.
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Post  ThePhantomOfNorway Thu Mar 24, 2016 12:44 pm

justin-from-barbados wrote:

Does the candelabra come up from the stage in Russia or from the wings?

It's hard to say based on the film (which I totally like), but if you look at the floor in the wings at 1:15, it seems like the markings for the candelabra-tracks. At least it looks very much like the tracks in Hamburg. But I'm not 100% sure..

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Post  justin-from-barbados Thu Mar 24, 2016 5:45 pm

yea I rewatched and realised they were not in the wings so maybe they do come up from the floor
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Post  ThePhantomOfNorway Sun Mar 27, 2016 12:06 am

In most clips I've seen the candelabras have the thick base (with wheels). Also most of the sets get stored some other place in the wings or backstage until they get pinned on right before they go on. Remember; space is not a thing you usually see backstage.

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Post  Blind Phan Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:28 pm

Oh Wow! All these new productions! You folks over in Europe are so lucky this year! Sweden, Russia, and now Paris? OMG!!! Awesome!!!

Btw. Justin, did you say you'd downloaded the CD from the Russian production? Where did you download it from? Would love to get it!

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Post  IamErik771 Sat May 28, 2016 8:54 pm

Hey, everyone! I've been working on a project, and one component has been compiling the opening dates for the many international productions of POTO. Here's what I have so far:

London: 9 October 1986
Broadway: 26 January 1988
Japan: 29 April 1988
Austria (Vienna): 20 December 1988
Canada: 1989
Sweden: 27 October 1989, revival in 2016
Germany: Hamburg - 1990
      Stuttgart - 2002
      Essen - 2005
      Hamburg Revival - 2013
Australia: 1990, revival in 2007
Netherlands: 1993
Mexico: 16 December 1999
Denmark: 2000, revivals in 2003 and 2009
Spain (Madrid): 4 September 2002
South Korea: 2002, revival in 2009
Hungary (Budapest): 2003
Brazil: April 2005
Las Vegas: 24 June 2006
Poland: 15 March 2008
Argentina: 19 March 2009
Czech Republic: 13 September 2014
Russia: 4 October 2014
Estonia: 2014
France: October 2016

As you can see, I'm trying to sort by when the first production in each country opened, and am not overly concerned with revivals or touring productions, especially those in English (though that info would be nice to have, as well). Anyway, I was wondering if anyone here might have corrections or more exact info for any of these, or for any productions I might have missed. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Very Happy
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Post  MarySkater Sat May 28, 2016 9:03 pm

I've been watching details of this year's Paris production. The front page of the website shows the opening date as 13th October, but in fact shows are booking from the 4th October. I imagine that dates 4th-12th are previews. The ticket price goes up on the 13th.
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Post  justin-from-barbados Sun May 29, 2016 5:10 pm

Don't forget Basel somewhere around 1996 I think
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Post  IamErik771 Sun May 29, 2016 10:20 pm

Ah, thanks! Totally forgot about Basel... whoops!
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Post  justin-from-barbados Mon May 30, 2016 12:16 pm

I know you didnt want to include tours, but to me at least, that first US tour didnt do much touring so I almost don;t consider it a tour, it had long sit downs in LA then San Fran.
I also feel the same way about the furst UK tour that spent a long time in Manchester (long enough for a cast change) and then again a long time in Edinburgh.


while we are on the topic of listing productions, i've always wanted to do a list of productions that use sub-stage candelabra so your list might come in useful there.
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Post  FredrikB71 Mon Jul 11, 2016 1:03 pm

IamErik771 wrote:Hey, everyone! I've been working on a project, and one component has been compiling the opening dates for the many international productions of POTO. Here's what I have so far:

London: 9 October 1986
Broadway: 26 January 1988
Japan: 29 April 1988
Austria (Vienna): 20 December 1988
Canada: 1989
Sweden: 27 October 1989, revival in 2016
Germany: Hamburg - 1990
      Stuttgart - 2002
      Essen - 2005
      Hamburg Revival - 2013
Australia: 1990, revival in 2007
Netherlands: 1993
Mexico: 16 December 1999
Denmark: 2000, revivals in 2003 and 2009
Spain (Madrid): 4 September 2002
South Korea: 2002, revival in 2009
Hungary (Budapest): 2003
Brazil: April 2005
Las Vegas: 24 June 2006
Poland: 15 March 2008
Argentina: 19 March 2009
Czech Republic: 13 September 2014
Russia: 4 October 2014
Estonia: 2014
France: October 2016

As you can see, I'm trying to sort by when the first production in each country opened, and am not overly concerned with revivals or touring productions, especially those in English (though that info would be nice to have, as well). Anyway, I was wondering if anyone here might have corrections or more exact info for any of these, or for any productions I might have missed. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Very Happy

The Australian production opened December 8, 1990, the Canadian on September 20, 1989, The Dutch production opened on August 15, 1993, there were also a Dutch speaking production in Antwerp, Belgium which opened 24th October 1999. The first German production opened on June 29, 1990 in Hamburg. The Danish production opened September 15th, 2000 in Copenhagen. You missed Finland, where the non-replica production opended in Helsinki on September 22, 2015. There will also be a non-replica production in Sweden, in the city of Gothenburg, which opens in autumn 2017, no dates available yet.
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Post  Blind Phan Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:51 am

Wow! I had no idea there've been that many international productions around the world over the past two decades! :-) It does my heart good!

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Post  IamErik771 Sat Nov 05, 2022 4:17 am

Greetings, everyone! It’s been a while!

On Halloween, I posted to Tumblr about things I noticed when listening to a boot from the Japanese production — it seems that, like the West End and Broadway productions, they’ve also made some changes as they reopened in the wake of the pandemic. Most interesting to me were the changes (and often additions) to the lyrics. They may be the very last to have the chorus singing in the title song. And they’ve added Raoul’s lines to “Wandering Child,” making it a trio. It’ll be interesting to go through the recording and see how many of the new lyrics I can translate by ear.

Anyway, here’s the post where I listed all the changes I could identify in listening to the recording: https://toru771.tumblr.com/post/699663291929231360/operaza-no-gaijin
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