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Post  Paula74 on Thu Sep 24, 2009 3:47 pm

Well, since it IS going to happen Rolling Eyes , we need a topic for the sequel.

Anyone in London want to sign up for this?

http://www.loveneverdies.com/invitation/


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Post  Scorp on Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:01 pm

I just got that. I can't go (damn it, if only they'd chosen a Friday to do the press launch), but I've signed up anyway in the hope that I am somehow liberated from my obligations or I can work out how to clone myself between now and then. That or I'll just try and find someone who can go in my place and then bring me back the memorabilia.

Maybe it's for the best I don't go... God knows what I might be tempted to do if I don't like what I hear. Still planning on attending opening night completely wasted, though. tongue

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Post  Phantom Cat on Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:23 pm

Sent mine in as soon as I received the e-mail Very Happy Oh, I do so want to go!!

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Post  HerMajesty on Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:15 pm

As much as I despair at the idea of a sequel, I will still be the first on the phone when booking opens! Embarassed Have to say I HATE the trailer, although the new music's not too bad and Sierra Boggess is excellent.

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Post  operafantomet on Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:25 pm

Still haven't seen the trailer/teaser, still don't gives a tiny rats arse... Cool

Oh the shame if I'll end up as this shows biggest fan... Laughing

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Post  HerMajesty on Sat Sep 26, 2009 8:18 pm

operafantomet wrote:Still haven't seen the trailer/teaser, still don't gives a tiny rats arse... Cool

Oh the shame if I'll end up as this shows biggest fan... Laughing

lol, I only saw it when Chris had it on the other night and said "Come and have a look at how shit this looks!" lol, we're by no means enthusiasts but I will be seeing it. Sierra Boggess is good so hopefully it won't be a total wash out, lol

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Post  carlottawannabe on Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:25 am

So any ideas what Mr phantoms newest tweet means?

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Post  Phantom Cat on Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:44 pm

I think it could be something like 'I now propose you pay attention to the time' or suchlike.

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Post  Paula74 on Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:23 pm

Honestly, these tweets - whether in Latin or English - aren't exactly going to create a strong buzz for the show...which is pretty much a big point of using social networks for publicity.

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Post  Scorp on Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:44 am

carlottawannabe wrote:So any ideas what Mr phantoms newest tweet means?

I think Mr Illiterate Phantom said that he would briefly relate to us what he hears from his 'author'.

And literally as I just wrote this, he's tweeted again (this time in English), saying: "I have now heard from my composer. I will report back accordingly. The Phantom."

Rolling Eyes Slight role reversal here: back in '86, when the 'original' Phantom was writing notes to the public (obviously not by Twitter, but the original flyer included a letter written in red ink commanding us all to buy tickets), he stated he had instructed ALW and Cammie to produce the show. This time round it seems he's taking orders from ALW!

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Post  operafantomet on Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:20 pm

[quote="Scorp"]
carlottawannabe wrote:
And literally as I just wrote this, he's tweeted again (this time in English), saying: "I have now heard from my composer. I will report back accordingly. The Phantom."
I thought the Phantom was the composer??? Laughing

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Post  Phantom Cat on Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:43 pm

Okay... I've just had a call from RUG... to say I've been picked to attend the Love Never Dies launch party at Her Majesty's Theatre next Thursday 8 October at 10.00 a.m. To say I'm excited is putting it mildly... YAY!!! Very Happy Very Happy

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Post  Scorp on Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:45 pm

Phantom Cat wrote:Okay... I've just had a call from RUG... to say I've been picked to attend the Love Never Dies launch party at Her Majesty's Theatre next Thursday 8 October at 10.00 a.m. To say I'm excited is putting it mildly... YAY!!! Very Happy Very Happy

It would have been a disgrace if they didn't choose you! Be sure to take a camera (and maybe something that records sound? Wink ) with you. Smile

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Post  Paula74 on Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:00 pm

Phantom Cat wrote:Okay... I've just had a call from RUG... to say I've been picked to attend the Love Never Dies launch party at Her Majesty's Theatre next Thursday 8 October at 10.00 a.m. To say I'm excited is putting it mildly... YAY!!! Very Happy Very Happy

Yay...we have an insider! Cool

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Post  EarlFan on Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:10 pm

Phantom Cat wrote:Okay... I've just had a call from RUG... to say I've been picked to attend the Love Never Dies launch party at Her Majesty's Theatre next Thursday 8 October at 10.00 a.m. To say I'm excited is putting it mildly... YAY!!! Very Happy Very Happy

That's great Very Happy really looking forward to hear everything about it, would be great if you managed to record anything from it.

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Post  carlottawannabe on Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:01 pm

Make that two insiders! Im going too

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Post  Miss von Krolock on Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:08 pm

Really excited for you both, girls! We will want to know all the details! Smile

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Post  Phantom Cat on Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:29 pm

No photographs or any recordings allowed in the auditorium... sorry! There'll be a film crew there so you will probably get to see it on the RUG website soon. Very Happy

Lindsay and I are both thrilled and excited and consider ourselves so very lucky to have been chosen. I don't know of anyone else who's going from this board, or any other phan forum, or similar. We might see other people there whom we know... hope so!

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Post  carlottawannabe on Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:30 pm

Yep its going to be great! It goes on 4 two hours. Im looking forward to hearing the songs performed and whats in the goodybag

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Post  Helen on Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:52 pm

Have fun at the press launch, Lindsay and Jeanette! Will the cast be announced at the launch?

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Post  Amberly_Nichole on Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:51 am

Hi all! Here is the latest article on Baz Bamigboye's website! Thought you may be interested!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1217522/BAZ-BAMIGBOYE-Pianos-tuned-Lets-show.html
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Post  SenorSwanky on Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:13 am

Scorp wrote:
carlottawannabe wrote:So any ideas what Mr phantoms newest tweet means?

I think Mr Illiterate Phantom said that he would briefly relate to us what he hears from his 'author'.

And literally as I just wrote this, he's tweeted again (this time in English), saying: "I have now heard from my composer. I will report back accordingly. The Phantom."

Rolling Eyes Slight role reversal here: back in '86, when the 'original' Phantom was writing notes to the public (obviously not by Twitter, but the original flyer included a letter written in red ink commanding us all to buy tickets), he stated he had instructed ALW and Cammie to produce the show. This time round it seems he's taking orders from ALW!
Yeah, that makes absolutely no sense. The Phantom IS the composer, and he gives orders, not takes them.

Baz Bamigboye wrote:the Love Never Dies concept album, which I have heard and which, for me, marks the composer's best score in more than a decade.
That's not saying much. First off, he hasn't written much in the last decade, and nothing of note. Second, to me, he hasn't written a good score in more than a decade and a half (Sunset Boulevard was his last really good musical; Woman in White had only fleeting moments of quality, and the rest were crap).

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Post  operafantomet on Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:19 am

Lindsay and Jeanette - have lots of fun! I'm glad they picked you guys, you're enthusiastic about the project and also Phantom regulars in London. I would be offended if you weren't picked out for this event!


From one of the article posted above:
Ramin Karimloo will play the Phantom - although for a while in Love Never Dies he's a mysterious figure known as Mr Y who runs the Phantasma funfair attraction on Coney Island where the action, set in 1907, takes place.
Isn't this around the time of the auction scene of "the Phantom of the Opera"? So Raoul, old and sick, is sitting at an auction in an obscure hotel in Paris, bidding on old opera stuff, while his wife is goofing around with the Phantom on Coney Island?

I know different dates has been mentioned for the Auction scene. The original libretto said 1881 for the main story, and 1905 for the auction. The original Hamburg programme agreed on the auction date, but put the main story in 1871. Later on I think the auction date was pushed forward to app. 1912 or so. But either way, if the Bram Stoker's Dracula "Love Never Dies" take place in 1907, where does that leave Raoul? Are we to see him as drunk rather than old in the Auction scene in POTO? Will he be rolling around in his wheelchair on Coney Island, hunting for the lovebirds? Laughing

This is why I dislike sequels... They never seem to relate convincingly to the original. Neutral

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Post  Phantomlove on Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:15 am

I think that despite the misch masch of dates that have been used for the show, that the general idea these days is that the story takes place in 1881 and the auction scene in 1911. That gives Raoul four whole years to get old and sick from his alchohol problems Rolling Eyes .

How we are ever going to explain that 1907 is ten years after 1881 is something I don't get though...

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Post  operafantomet on Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:18 am

Phantomlove wrote:I think that despite the misch masch of dates that have been used for the show, that the general idea these days is that the story takes place in 1881 and the auction scene in 1911. That gives Raoul four whole years to get old and sick from his alchohol problems Rolling Eyes .
Ah, OK, that explains it. Laughing

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Post  HDKingsbury on Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:39 pm

Phantomlove wrote:I think that despite the misch masch of dates that have been used for the show, that the general idea these days is that the story takes place in 1881 and the auction scene in 1911. That gives Raoul four whole years to get old and sick from his alchohol problems Rolling Eyes .

How we are ever going to explain that 1907 is ten years after 1881 is something I don't get though...

Wouldn't that be what used to be called a plot hole big enough to drive a Mac truck through? A sequel is supposed to follow the preceding story, to take up where the previous one left of in some fashion or another.

I have few doubts but that the music will be wonderfully lush and romantic -- (Andy's good at writing this kind of stuff) -- and I don't deny that he has every right to do this. There's also a better than even chance that the story, by itself, might be okay if it is considered a stand-alone piece. It's his dime, so to speak, and his muse.

At the same time, if the man's going to write a sequel to his own show...shouldn't he try at least a little to make the events in the second make sense based upon the events that took place in the first?

I am first and foremost a Phantom of the Opera fan, not just an ALW fan. What he chooses to do with his story will never change my feelings for the original.

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Post  Raphael on Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:01 pm

[quote="operafantomet"]
Scorp wrote:
carlottawannabe wrote:
And literally as I just wrote this, he's tweeted again (this time in English), saying: "I have now heard from my composer. I will report back accordingly. The Phantom."
I thought the Phantom was the composer??? Laughing
Apparently even the fictitious characters in the story are trying to divorce themselves as much as possible from the project.

HDKingsbury wrote:At the same time, if the man's going to write a sequel to his own show...shouldn't he try at least a little to make the events in the second make sense based upon the events that took place in the first?
Ah, but you're forgetting. ALW said this isn't a sequel, although everyone assumes it is. It's a new musical picking up on the events of his previous musical, "The Phantom of the Opera," and using many of the same characters. TOTALLY not a sequel Rolling Eyes

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Post  Paula74 on Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:18 pm

Raphael wrote:
TOTALLY not a sequel

*checking dictionary.com*

se⋅quel [see-kwuhl]
–noun
1. a literary work, movie, etc., that is complete in itself but continues the narrative of a preceding work.
2. an event or circumstance following something; subsequent course of affairs.
3. a result, consequence, or inference.
Origin:
1375–1425; late ME sequel(e) < L sequēla what follows, equiv. to sequ(ī) to follow + -ēla n. suffix


Yeah, LDN is totally not a sequel. Suspect

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Post  HDKingsbury on Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:09 pm

Ah, but you're forgetting. ALW said this isn't a sequel, although everyone assumes it is. It's a new musical picking up on the events of his previous musical, "The Phantom of the Opera," and using many of the same characters. TOTALLY not a sequel

Thank you, Raphael, for setting me straight on this. And to think I had this idea that the new stand-alone musical that picks up 10 years after the previous one was a sequel. Silly me! And to think that this once confused me.

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Post  Scorp on Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:23 am

And we have another pointless non-informative tweet today, again in Latin (despite Mr Phantom promising not to use that again, but maybe too many people pointed out his grammatical errors when he wrote in English? Wink ), telling us that the work of his composer (?! HE's the composer! Rolling Eyes ) pleases him greatly.

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