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The Phantom South Africa Facebook has some photos taken in the costume department, specifically masks and headdresses.
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Wouah! So many props! I love this! Thanks a lot!
Melly- Posts : 76
Join date : 2012-02-21
Age : 38
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My grand Bustle is ready!
I just need to make a mock up and to know exactly how many yards I need for this dress, but every piece of underwear (I don't wear my chemise/shirt here) is ready!
I really love the volume! This is a perfectly historic faux-cul/petticoat and Corset
Don't pay attention to the mess, it's always messy when I sew something! In the back is my 2004 movie version of the ToM Dress. I just miss the embroyderies on the skirt but it's finished...
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I just need to make a mock up and to know exactly how many yards I need for this dress, but every piece of underwear (I don't wear my chemise/shirt here) is ready!
I really love the volume! This is a perfectly historic faux-cul/petticoat and Corset
Don't pay attention to the mess, it's always messy when I sew something! In the back is my 2004 movie version of the ToM Dress. I just miss the embroyderies on the skirt but it's finished...
Bonus:
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Melly- Posts : 76
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I don't know if this will be very useful as there's a lot of reference pics of this costume on the web, but as I'm making technical drawings for my personal use (because I'm tired of looking at my 100 pics to see if there's a seam here, etc..) , I wanted to share this one, just in case, maybe it will help some of you (?) It concerns the new London version of the dress. I'll maybe change some little things on the train or trimings in the future to make my own version.
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Melly- Posts : 76
Join date : 2012-02-21
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Melly, I'm loving your costume(s) there. Great, great work! As for the Wishing dress bodice - HAH! You've based it on the Hamburg one, haven't you? The tailoring in the back is better than the London ones. But the side/back drapes looks more London. The seam placement seems rather correct, to my eye. A few notes:
1. The faux vest is usually placed on top of the blue silk, rather than as an addition to it. This makes the front more durable and stabile. Take this into account when cutting the front panels (as it looks like you were aware of, just felt like mentioning it).
2. The skirt usually have a bit of goring going on. The front panels are cut as triangles, at least at the sides, while the back panels seems fairly straight. This means the skirt flares out at the hem, while you get less fabric in the waist. It's quite flattering. You can see it very well here, in Sofia Escobar's picture:
1. The faux vest is usually placed on top of the blue silk, rather than as an addition to it. This makes the front more durable and stabile. Take this into account when cutting the front panels (as it looks like you were aware of, just felt like mentioning it).
2. The skirt usually have a bit of goring going on. The front panels are cut as triangles, at least at the sides, while the back panels seems fairly straight. This means the skirt flares out at the hem, while you get less fabric in the waist. It's quite flattering. You can see it very well here, in Sofia Escobar's picture:
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Thanks for all these details! Really!
Concerning the skirt I haven't studied it for the moment as I haven't cut my pattern yet (bought on truly victorian ) but I think that this will be the same kind of pieces than the pieces of the white crinoline (that has a elliptical skirt, projected to the back), but with smaller piece. If it's the case, yes, you should obtain triangles on the front and maybe straight pieces on the back maybe gathered at the waist... I have to open this pattern someday haha
For the bodice I haven't found good pics of the back of London dress but I loved the back of the Hamburg dress . It looks like the pattern I'm going to use, so it will help me. I'll use the dinner bodice from Truly Victorizn which is a natural form pattern... So I'll have to change several things to fit the bodice over the bustle.
For the faux vest, even if I've placed a seam next to the velvet edge on my drawing, I'll try not to make this little piece of silk next to it that looks "out of nowhere". It's weird to have a small piece like this, but I refered to the new London dress I'll surely won't keep it.
I have 2 darts on the front piece of my pattern, I'll try to extend the first one to the neckline to obtain emplacement for the faux vest... But concerning the other dart which is on the side, I'll have to find another solution.. The fabric has stripes, which is quite difficult when you need to make a dart. I don't know how to do, I think I'll have to make a mock up for this piece directly on my dummy instead of following the pattern I have. It would be easier to make the stripes vertical, but I prefer when they are on the cross
Thanks again for your message and for the reference pic! This will help me a lot!
Concerning the skirt I haven't studied it for the moment as I haven't cut my pattern yet (bought on truly victorian ) but I think that this will be the same kind of pieces than the pieces of the white crinoline (that has a elliptical skirt, projected to the back), but with smaller piece. If it's the case, yes, you should obtain triangles on the front and maybe straight pieces on the back maybe gathered at the waist... I have to open this pattern someday haha
For the bodice I haven't found good pics of the back of London dress but I loved the back of the Hamburg dress . It looks like the pattern I'm going to use, so it will help me. I'll use the dinner bodice from Truly Victorizn which is a natural form pattern... So I'll have to change several things to fit the bodice over the bustle.
For the faux vest, even if I've placed a seam next to the velvet edge on my drawing, I'll try not to make this little piece of silk next to it that looks "out of nowhere". It's weird to have a small piece like this, but I refered to the new London dress I'll surely won't keep it.
I have 2 darts on the front piece of my pattern, I'll try to extend the first one to the neckline to obtain emplacement for the faux vest... But concerning the other dart which is on the side, I'll have to find another solution.. The fabric has stripes, which is quite difficult when you need to make a dart. I don't know how to do, I think I'll have to make a mock up for this piece directly on my dummy instead of following the pattern I have. It would be easier to make the stripes vertical, but I prefer when they are on the cross
Thanks again for your message and for the reference pic! This will help me a lot!
Melly- Posts : 76
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My gorgeous boots...just because I love them!
HerMajesty- Posts : 91
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HerMajesty wrote:My gorgeous boots...just because I love them!
LOVE! Where did you get them?!
Aria Clements- Posts : 16
Join date : 2012-03-09
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Melly, did you get your fabric funded yet? And I'm still waiting on the Rapunzel fabric. No notification yet.
I am also on the hunt for photos of the London back. Hamburg might have to do. Oh well. The Hamburg one is still stunning. Do you think it would really be that different?
I am also on the hunt for photos of the London back. Hamburg might have to do. Oh well. The Hamburg one is still stunning. Do you think it would really be that different?
Aria Clements- Posts : 16
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From eBay some years back, from the London productionAria Clements wrote:HerMajesty wrote:My gorgeous boots...just because I love them!
LOVE! Where did you get them?!
HerMajesty- Posts : 91
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HerMajesty wrote:From eBay some years back, from the London productionAria Clements wrote:HerMajesty wrote:My gorgeous boots...just because I love them!
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/HerMajesty01/524045ce.jpg
LOVE! Where did you get them?!
LOVE LOVE LOVE!!!! :-)
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I totally adore those boots. I really do. What's your address, you say?
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operafantomet wrote:I totally adore those boots. I really do. What's your address, you say?
I'll leave them to you in my will...
HerMajesty- Posts : 91
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Nah, I claim dibs!
Aria Clements- Posts : 16
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I would just like to add that much to my dismay, these boots are missing from the UK tour!
HerMajesty- Posts : 91
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These boots are wonderful! Is is another piece from Peter Fox?
I can't stop thinking of the victorian boots I've bought some weeks ago, which are lost T_T It's been 2 months now
Well these boots are SO representative of the full costume! They look like 'out of a dream' Thanks for sharing they are really adorable
I've started a mock up of the wishing bodice yesterday. It turns pretty well, I have to find a navy velvet now
I can't stop thinking of the victorian boots I've bought some weeks ago, which are lost T_T It's been 2 months now
Well these boots are SO representative of the full costume! They look like 'out of a dream' Thanks for sharing they are really adorable
I've started a mock up of the wishing bodice yesterday. It turns pretty well, I have to find a navy velvet now
Melly- Posts : 76
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Melly wrote:These boots are wonderful! Is is another piece from Peter Fox?
I can't stop thinking of the victorian boots I've bought some weeks ago, which are lost T_T It's been 2 months now
Well these boots are SO representative of the full costume! They look like 'out of a dream' Thanks for sharing they are really adorable
I've started a mock up of the wishing bodice yesterday. It turns pretty well, I have to find a navy velvet now
Most likely, they are from the London production from about 2000-2002 I think.
HerMajesty- Posts : 91
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Not just these. All of the original footwear and headwear is gone from the costumes. As is props. And wigs. And bottom halves. Only thing remaining intact is the bodices. Maria Bjørnson's design my foot.HerMajesty wrote:I would just like to add that much to my dismay, these boots are missing from the UK tour!
Very happy I get to inherit your boots, though! Nevermind that I'm older than you and statistically will go first...
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I'm doing an illustration of the Masquerade Triton girl and was wondering if anyone have details on the wig? The pic of the back of the wig looks like it has lots of chin-length ringlets but from all the pics of the character from the front, you never see them. Just want to get a handle on how the wig is styled, thanks!
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I would describe it as a ponytail of ringlets in the back, but with the curls on the side and top of the head stretched out. However, small curls are often seen around the temple, like Christine's wig. Here's one of the wigs used in Hamburg. It had a nice addition of golden streaks in the ringlets:Raphael wrote:I'm doing an illustration of the Masquerade Triton girl and was wondering if anyone have details on the wig? The pic of the back of the wig looks like it has lots of chin-length ringlets but from all the pics of the character from the front, you never see them. Just want to get a handle on how the wig is styled, thanks!
This blurry photo from Madrid shows the wig from the side:
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/reiseaudun/designmasque/tritonspain.jpg
As does this Japanese one:
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/reiseaudun/designmasque/tritonjapan2.jpg
Some wigs have shorter hair in the back, so the ponytail of ringlets instead looks like curls around the crown of the head. The original West End wig was like that, and I think the US ones. But the basic principle is the same.
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The more I think about how much I have to modify on RD before the end of August, the less likely it seems that I will be able to complete the damn thing in time....Grrr....
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Well then, take it down a notch. Complete the basics, so you have a wearable costume. THEN concentrate on the details. Vegas is first and foremost supposed to be fun, no?phantomfett wrote:The more I think about how much I have to modify on RD before the end of August, the less likely it seems that I will be able to complete the damn thing in time....Grrr....
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I don't want to work on it after the Vegas trip. I want it to be done...as in nothing left to do on it. I'm either going full effect or not bringing it.
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Then on to the sewing machines! You know what you have to wear if you don't bring the Red Death costume.
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It would definitely be easier to make and pack....
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You're back-up costume is Ramin's infamous photoshoot outfit? Don't you think that'll be a little drafty?
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R.
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1000 Dollars- MEG GIRY WIG- Wig worn by me CLOSING NIGHT of the NATIONAL TOUR- of THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA. Here is a chance to own a piece of history- Wig custom made for me on the tour and worn for 16 shows including closing night. Made with real hair and set perfectly in the style of the show by our very own wig designer. This wig will also come with a signed poster and personal pair of my pointe shoes. *** ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY TO OWN A PIECE OF A BROADWAY SHOW***
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http://www.broadwaycares.org/PALOMAGARCIALEE
https://www.facebook.com/PalomaGarciaLeeFans
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operafantomet wrote:1000 Dollars- MEG GIRY WIG- Wig worn by me CLOSING NIGHT of the NATIONAL TOUR- of THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA. Here is a chance to own a piece of history- Wig custom made for me on the tour and worn for 16 shows including closing night. Made with real hair and set perfectly in the style of the show by our very own wig designer. This wig will also come with a signed poster and personal pair of my pointe shoes. *** ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY TO OWN A PIECE OF A BROADWAY SHOW***
http://www.broadwaycares.org/PALOMAGARCIALEE
https://www.facebook.com/PalomaGarciaLeeFans
I saw this from a post on FB....drooling over the thought of owning a wig! Alas, no funds for it at present. I hope someone on the forum can get it so I we can see pictures! :-)
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Raphael wrote:You're back-up costume is Ramin's infamous photoshoot outfit? Don't you think that'll be a little drafty?
R.
Not for Vegas in August....
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