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Post  eriksmate Wed Sep 19, 2012 6:54 pm

Beautifully made Crawford replica mask for sale on eBay:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330796656703

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Post  SenorSwanky Wed Sep 19, 2012 6:58 pm

What I'd give for that! But way too rich for my blood.
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Post  London-Phan Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:56 pm

I'd love that too, it is awesome but I think nice as it is that price is a bit too high considering I've seen a stage used Willetts mask from his first run go for £300 on eBay.
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Post  StrangerThanUDreamt Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:59 pm

At first I saw the 199 and thought 'perhaps!" then I realized it was in BP and not US dollars(facepalm)...do the conversion... that's a near 400 $ for a replica mask... Suspect
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Post  SenorSwanky Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:01 pm

7 years ago, I paid $52, including shipping from Germany, for a non-shaded replica from Hamburg, and that'd be a bit steep at this point. So I'll just stick with that for this Halloween.
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Post  eriksmate Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:04 pm

There is an opportunity to make an offer...however, I should point out that I paid $500 for it.

I guess it depends how much anyone might love/want/need it.

As far as I'm concerned it's as close as any phan will get to the real thing.

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Post  SenorSwanky Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:06 pm

I think you got fleeced.
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Post  StrangerThanUDreamt Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:31 pm

^ I second that, accurate reproductions are getting somewhat easier to find at a cheaper cost; I usually stay far away from etsy, but random googling turned up this UK version replica (with shading) for $45, http://www.etsy.com/listing/109751729/phantom-of-the-opera-west-end-25th-ann?ref=sr_gallery_35&ga_search_query=phantom+of+the+opera+mask&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_ship_to=ZZ&ga_min=0&ga_max=0&ga_page=3&ga_search_type=all

I am in no way saying that the mask up for auction is anything short of beautiful, the detail and paint job are practically perfect. I just think you may have initially been overcharged.
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Post  SenorSwanky Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:39 pm

Right. I could maybe consider splurging for the UK version. But it doesn't seem to be of any lesser craftsmanship than the MC version you're selling.
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Post  eriksmate Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:44 pm

I get your message SenorSwanky - you don't have to buy it!

In my opinion, they don't compare. These frequently seen cheap replicas are churned out and obviously without any craftmanship. The plastic and paint work is very cheap and shoddy. I guess it depends if you want a quality, hand crafted, leather-backed with embedded wire...or a vacuum formed fancy dress version.

I do have some of the cheaper versions and although they look good in pics, do not compare to this amazing piece of art. I'm not trying to sell it, but simply talking from experience and years of mask collecting. Who wants a Ford Fiesta when you can have a Rolls Royce?

Thanks for the comments though.

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Post  SenorSwanky Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:45 pm

Actually, I probably would prefer a Fiesta for gas efficiency. Razz
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Post  eriksmate Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:47 pm

Haha - I'm confident that both masks are diesel fuel.

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Post  StrangerThanUDreamt Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:54 pm

All joking aside, I wont deny I'm sorely tempted...but Id have to convert the price to US dollars, and then it gets a bit scary, affraid But it's So beautiful! (is not Gustave)
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Post  eriksmate Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:56 pm

Feel free to make an offer...

LondonPhan - when did the Willetts mask go on eBay? I'd have happily parted with £300 for a stage-used mask - espceically an early one like that.

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Post  Phantom on a Budget Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:30 pm

eriksmate wrote:I get your message SenorSwanky - you don't have to buy it!

In my opinion, they don't compare. These frequently seen cheap replicas are churned out and obviously without any craftmanship. The plastic and paint work is very cheap and shoddy. I guess it depends if you want a quality, hand crafted, leather-backed with embedded wire...or a vacuum formed fancy dress version.
Not to rain on your parade, but you do know that the vast majority of those hand crafted works of art are also vacuformed, right? So are authentic stage masks. So vacuforming itself does not make a mask "cheap." Paying more than ~$200 for a fully painted, wire backed, lined replica is silly to me. You're paying for quality of the work at that point, but even that has a limit in my book.

Stage used masks are a different story and obviously worth more, but each person will see that worth differently.

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Since eriksmate thinks I'm bashing an artist friend's work by saying I would only pay ~$200 for a replica, let me just say this: I know most of the mask makers in the business today, and I provide them plenty of leads for commissions. I've been lucky enough to work with some, and become friends with several of them. What I said is not derogatory, simply a fact - I wouldn't shell out more than a certain amount for a replica mask. If someone else wants to, great. I don't know the prices for these masks my contacts make, as I don't care. I make it a point to not get in their business. Take that for what it's worth.
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Post  eriksmate Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:02 pm

I didn't want to cause an argument by offering this for sale.

It is to be considered as a work of art, by a brilliant artist and as close to a stage-used mask as you're likely to get - that's it. If you wouldn't consider paying anything like this for a piece of art (which is even nicer in the flesh!) then no one is forcing you. I did, and I've loved owning this beautiful piece. For me, it's as lovely as some of my Robert Heindel artwork, which was also very expensive art by a talented artist.

I sincerely hope everyone understands this, and if any "silly" phans out there are interested, then all they need do is PM me or offer a price on eBay - it's only been live for a few hours and I've already received two questions about postage, so it can't be that bad.

One very chilled phan.

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Post  London-Phan Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:05 pm

eriksmate wrote:Feel free to make an offer...

LondonPhan - when did the Willetts mask go on eBay? I'd have happily parted with £300 for a stage-used mask - espceically an early one like that.

Erm it was about 2 maybe 3 years ago and thinking about it i remember seeing at £300 but it may have finished higher than that, i just remember seeing it bid to 300 and thinking i can't afford that ha.
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Post  eriksmate Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:09 pm

Yeah, I've been on the look-out for one for a VERY long time. I remember one coming up a few years back used by Ramin K and signed by him. It was for a charity ebay auction...however, it mysteriously ended early. I suspect RUG didnt authorise it's sale and had it removed. I suspect an early original like that would sell for a fair amount. Shocked

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Post  eriksmate Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:11 am

After all this discussion, it was sold for the asking price within 4 hours...


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Post  London-Phan Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:18 am

That was quick. It is a very nice mask and although I did think it was priced a little high if I had plenty of money I probably would have bought it Very Happy
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Post  MasqPhan Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:10 am

Glad you were able to sell your mask for your asking price. Hope you got your actual stage mask for a good price.
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