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Post  Irina de France on Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:32 am

Mandrake, what you said about Celinde's take on Christine really had me interested! I do wish I could get to see her one day...

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Post  Scorp on Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:46 pm

Mandrake wrote:That's always struck me as the essence of good acting: that you see character, not actor.

...And this is why I will never understand people who rate Ramin Karimloo's Phantom. Every time I saw him in the role, it was impossible not to be very conscious of the fact that you were just seeing Ramin Karimloo in a mask.

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Post  MajesticPhantom on Mon Oct 19, 2015 7:00 am

Celinde sounds like my kind of Christine. Wink Actually, based on Nadim Naaman's guest tweeting for the official Twitter account this past week, it's quite clear that the two oft hem have developed a loving relationship. Anna O'Byrne was quite similar as Christine, although her final lair, it was clear she felt a great deal of sadness and shock at what was occurring in front of her (re, the Phantom's breakdown).
I am very "Team Raoul" (if we must simplify!) which is why I really hope to see Naaman and Schoenmaker during this contract.

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Post  todaaefor on Mon Feb 01, 2016 1:16 am

My husband and I are thinking of making a pilgrimage to London from the States for the 30th anniversary. Any local Phans have any insight as to what night would be the best to see the show? It looks like the show is dark on the actual anniversary date, but thought maybe they'd honor the show with a cake on one of the surrounding days. Also wondered if they would change the schedule and do a show on the 9th anyway (not sure how all of that works!)

Just want to be around to celebrate!

Thanks for any thoughts!


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Post  Mandrake on Mon Feb 01, 2016 7:59 pm

Hmmm, that's a question.

I think it's unlikely they'd run the show on a Sunday, which Oct 9th seems to be this year. I guess there'd be all sorts of problems with that.

I was there Oct 9th just past, without realising it was the 29th anniversary. JOJ got the whole audience to sing Happy Birthday to the Phantom, which was a nice surprise!

I guess they'll do something more substantial for a landmark birthday like the 30th. Probably a cake and a few luminaries like ALW, maybe famous/ prominent former cast members, etc.

That being the case, I'd guess the Saturday evening show would be the most likely time for a small party. Although would they want to celebrate before (albeit very slightly) it turns 30?

I just checked and it's only booking up until the 1st of October at the moment. I'd keep an eye on http://www.seetickets.com (the official ticketers), checking dates. Sometimes, for a big show, they keep public sales closed for a while until they figure out what's going on- so, when the October period finally opens for booking, if Oct 8th or 10th is blanked out for a week or two, that'd likely be the date.

But if I were forced to guess, I'd guess the 8th. Though someone else here might know better, and I think some occasional posters have links with the cast/ RUG so we might hear something firmer. Maybe someone remembers what's happened previously when birthday performances fall on a Sunday? If you have to gamble by booking well in advance, I'd wait a few months then book the 8th (lacking any better intel in the meantime)... But, you'd probably be safe leaving it until the week before to book- you'd almost certainly still get a good couple of good seats from one of the resellers (check again here nearer the time if you need a list, they've been changing/ amalgamating lately).

On a different note, I was there on Saturday night, JOJ's final show. Found it very moving and, at the end, he came forward and ripped off all his wig/ rubber/ facial prostheses(?) to reveal the man behind the mask... He threw part of it out into the crowd, it went flying right by my shoulder before I'd time to sober-up sufficiently to make a grab for it; I'd have liked to have had that memento!

I noticed on his twitter that he's fallen just short of reaching 2,000 shows. Hopefully (as he hints in the tweet) he'll return sometime soon-ish to get over the line...

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Post  todaaefor on Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:09 pm

Thanks for the reply, Mandrake! I don't really know how to go about getting tickets on the West End. I've got my info down when it comes to Broadway (where and when to buy, what seats to get) but the West End is an entirely new deal for me! So I also appreciate the link you provided!

You bring up a good point re: watching for a blacked out date. Incidentally, I ended up with tickets to the finale performance of Rock of Ages on Broadway by chance - happened to be the lead actor's last show (as promoted), and a few weeks after we bought tickets they announced the whole show would close. I guess one never knows!

I'm sad to have missed JOJ, but he never seems to get too far from the phamily Smile

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Post  Scorp on Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:45 pm

Mandrake wrote:

On a different note, I was there on Saturday night, JOJ's final show. Found it very moving and, at the end, he came forward and ripped off all his wig/ rubber/ facial prostheses(?) to reveal the man behind the mask... He threw part of it out into the crowd, it went flying right by my shoulder before I'd time to sober-up sufficiently to make a grab for it; I'd have liked to have had that memento!

He did the same thing in his last performance in his initial run - that was in 2005. Can't believe how time has flown!

I'm not sure anything that special will happen at the 30th...it will either be like the Miz 30th or less extravagant (Cameron doesn't care as much for Phantom, and ALW's tired of it and still grumpy that his misguided sequel continuation no, wait, we can say sequel) didn't have the same success). That they're still only booking till 1 October though suggests that they are still trying to figure out what they want to do then.

I was at the 20th, and that was very good fun. Got to meet a lot of people, including Charles Hart and Richard Stilgoe. Can't believe that was 10 years ago.

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Post  IamErik771 on Fri Feb 05, 2016 6:58 pm

I got to hear a clip of Ben Forster in the role . . . Better than I was expecting after what I remember from "Superstar," but he's still not really my cup of tea. Curious about what his acting is like in the role, though.

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Post  justin-from-barbados on Tue Feb 16, 2016 12:19 am

Just had a listen

Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

Now I do karaoke from time to time, but I just dont understand how someone can sound so bad in the lower easy notes yet hit the higher parts out of the park, it's just so odd. Like his MOTN "Beeeeeeeeee" was really good, but the rest was, well, terrible.

One positive, he does emote well in his singing which is helpful when you listen to phantom rather than see the show live.

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Post  justin-from-barbados on Tue Feb 16, 2016 12:21 am

Would this be considered stunt casting? Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

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Post  Scorp on Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:56 pm

I avoided that Superstar tour like the plague so I had no idea what Forster sounded like.

I've only heard him sing the title song, and not really liking it. He sounds like he's singing an American pop song.

I hope it gets better...

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Post  IamErik771 on Wed Feb 17, 2016 3:52 am

justin-from-barbados wrote:Just had a listen

Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

Now I do karaoke from time to time, but I just dont understand how someone can sound so bad in the lower easy notes yet hit the higher parts out of the park, it's just so odd. Like his MOTN "Beeeeeeeeee" was really good, but the rest was, well, terrible.

One positive, he does emote well in his singing which is helpful when you listen to phantom rather than see the show live.

Every singer is different and has a different range, with their own strengths and weaknesses. I know a few tenors who simply can't hit the low notes in MOTN -- their voices don't go that low. But yeah, that sort of thing is part of why I feel that Forster was miscast in the role. I wonder if this would qualify as stunt casting, since while he has been in musicals, that's pretty much entirely due to his being on a reality show.

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Post  justin-from-barbados on Wed Feb 17, 2016 4:13 pm

on a plus..... He does look nice in the role, going by the pics up outside the theatre. (not counting the promo one with him straddling the latter under the theatre, that was just camp)

Seems they might have got his mask to look not as wacked as some of the other london masks, or maybe its just the angle. Those London masks are still WAY too big and just swallow the poor guys' faces

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Post  RichardN86 on Fri Feb 19, 2016 3:22 am

Looks like there is some virus circling around in the Air at Her Majesty's Theatre. Jeremy Secomb took a short break from Les Mis and played The Phantom on Saturday and Monday. Was anyone there ? I love the youtube-clips of him as The Phantom. His voice is so powerful.

It looks like Scott Davies is on for the rest of the week...

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Post  RichardN86 on Fri Feb 19, 2016 1:12 pm

RichardN86 wrote:Looks like there is some virus circling around in the Air at Her Majesty's Theatre. Jeremy Secomb took a short break from Les Mis and played The Phantom on Saturday and Monday. Was anyone there ? I love the youtube-clips of him as The Phantom. His voice is so powerful.

It looks like Scott Davies is on for the rest of the week...

Ben Forster is back tonight Smile

https://mobile.twitter.com/thebenforster/status/700658432320233473

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Post  Scorp on Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:32 pm

For anyone who happens to be in London, I highly recommend going to the Victoria & Albert Museum if you can before August. They have a temporary exhibition (which will later transfer to New York) called "Curtain Up", which celebrates recent London and Broadway theatre. There is a whole section dedicated to Phantom, and it includes Michael Crawford's original mask, a real costume used in the production (2011 Red Death), Maria Björnson's original designs and video clips from the V&A's pro-shot of the 2003 cast, starring John Owen-Jones.

For Hal Prince fans, there is also an extremely fascinating section where he has donated some of his papers on the original production of Evita.

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Post  Mandrake on Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:12 pm

Hmmm.

So JOJ finishes at Les Mis, Broadway, on 04th September when the show closes.

And Ben Forster finishes his (unusually short?) Phantom run on 07th September (according to this link). I'm a little suspicious of this date, though, since it's a Wednesday.

Given this coincidental(?) timing, and maybe since JOJ only had a 4-5 month run as Phantom in his latest just-finished stint, could JOJ be likely to return?

Or would this be very unlikely? Maybe the closeness of the dates actually mitigates against it.

Although he did make some noises on twitter about returning, and being just under 40 performances shy of 2000... Returning on the 8th would probably see him hit 2000 on almost exactly the 30th anniversary. It's a bit of a stretch, though, to imagine it could be timed so precisely even if someone wanted to.

I've a feeling all these things are just coincidence and I'm grasping at straws.

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Post  Irina de France on Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:28 pm

So we're not having Ben Forster for the 30th? Man, that's really weird. I'm a bit dubious they'll bring JOJ back, though. Maybe CamMac will jump on the occasion and have Hadley Fraser or Tam Mutu, as I've predicted before? But it makes me wonder if Celinde will stay for the 30th, for some weird reason.

(And I'm off to pray really hard to have Michael Ball for the 30th anniversary, AGAIN)

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Post  Riene on Thu Mar 17, 2016 3:42 pm

Scorp wrote:For anyone who happens to be in London, I highly recommend going to the Victoria & Albert Museum if you can before August. They have a temporary exhibition (which will later transfer to New York) called "Curtain Up", which celebrates recent London and Broadway theatre. There is a whole section dedicated to Phantom, and it includes Michael Crawford's original mask, a real costume used in the production (2011 Red Death), Maria Björnson's original designs and video clips from the V&A's pro-shot of the 2003 cast, starring John Owen-Jones.

For Hal Prince fans, there is also an extremely fascinating section where he has donated some of his papers on the original production of Evita.

*wonders if there is any way in hell I could get to London this summer*

Any idea where in NYC this collection is heading? I have only a slightly better chance of getting there.

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